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Lu is the central figure in Khan’s claims about a US-backed regime-change conspiracy that toppled his government last month through a no-confidence motion.
He accused Lu of threatening Pakistan’s former ambassador to the US, Asad Majeed, that a failure to remove Khan through a no-confidence vote would herald ”consequences” for Pakistan and vice versa.
Khan, Chairman of the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI), also alleges that the threat was made even before the no-confidence motion was tabled and it subsequently started a chain of events that resulted in his ouster as local abettors and conspirators joined with the claimed conspiracy.
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”Imagine telling the ambassador of a country of 220 million people that you get rid of your prime minister,” he said.
Questioned on why he had neglected to make his claims public earlier when he was so ”specific” about their details, the cricketer-turned-politician said he had placed the cypher — containing details of the meeting between Lu and Pakistan’s ambassador — before his Cabinet which was later presented in a meeting of the National Security Council (NSC).
A cypher is a coded message sent by embassies to their country.
Host Becky Anderson pushed back against Khan and asked him if had contacted the US president (Joe Biden) or state secretary (Antony Blinken) regarding the matter. Imran did not provide an answer, instead saying that the NSC meeting had decided to issue a demarche and a protest was registered to the US in Pakistan and Washington.
To a question about Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari’s stance on Pak-US relations and whether Khan believed that a good bilateral relationship was in Pakistan’s interest, he responded: ”I had a perfectly good relationship with the Trump administration. It’s only when the Biden administration came, that it coincided with what was happening in Afghanistan and for some reason — which I still don’t know — they never got in touch with me.” Anderson said the US had ”rubbished” the notion that it was involved in a regime change in Pakistan and asked Imran Khan if he ”genuinely” believed his claim of there being a foreign conspiracy to topple his government.
The PTI chief responded by saying that the US embassy was calling and meeting disgruntled PTI members even before the meeting between Lu and Pakistan’s then-ambassador to the US.
”What were they meeting (US officials) for? They were the first ones to jump ship and they were the ones who then offered millions of dollars each to buy my other Members of the National Assembly who jumped ship later on…Why would the US embassy be interested in our party backbenchers?” Khan said.
Referring to prior examples of alleged US-backed regime changes in Iran and South American countries, Khan said resentment increased against the US when unpopular governments were brought to power. ”Unfortunately, yes, there is anti-Americanism right now,” he added.
Anderson closed the interview with a question on whether Imran would run as a prime minister again, to which he predicted that the PTI would become the ”biggest party in Pakistan’s history because people are so incensed and feel insulted that these criminals have been foisted over us … there is anger in Pakistan … there is anti-Americanism”.
During the interview, Anderson asked the former prime minister about his visit to Russia coinciding with the announcement of the Kremlin’s Ukraine invasion, adding that ”the optics didn’t and don’t look good, do they?” ”This visit was planned a long time back and all stakeholders in Pakistan were onboard. The military wanted Russian hardware, we wanted oil, and there was a gas pipeline that was being negotiated for the past six years before my government came in … how would I have known that the day I landed in Moscow, President (Vladimir) Putin would decide to go into Ukraine?” Khan responded.
Pressed on whether he regretted the trip, Khan said he would have regretted it if he had known about the invasion beforehand and still chosen to go ahead, according to the Dawn report.